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It seems people have forgotten it was Bill Gates who stepped in and bailed Apple and Jobs out when Apple was about to go under. You have to wonder if it were not for Microsoft, would there be all these postings today.
I am reminded of a man, a much lesser one in comparison, but still a very talented one. When an unbelieving junior mentioned how he was merely lucky with cracking ideas, he replied - "Well, I have been lucky over 3000 times."
Millions of Apple products, including iPhones, iPods, iPads, and Mac computers, suddenly stopped working on Wednesday when Apple founder Steve Jobs died of pancreatic cancer late that night. Apple issued a statement saying that they are working 'round the clock to devise and implement a solution, though they said it is proving difficult to devise and implement anything very successfully without their genius leader.
@Phantom II, you go way back too... Lisa was just way too expensive and possibly ahead of its time. I don't remember exactly, but I think it had some advanced features, possibly tons of ram or HDD space and so on... But, Lisa was not Jobs creation - he was kicked off of that project and transferred to Macintosh which was a success.
Steve Jobs was a salesman. He didn't actually invent any of the stuff that makes Apple famous. Or if he did, nobody has been able to say, in plain words, just what exactly his revolutionary innovation was.
Judging by the inexhaustible treasure-trove of quality anecdotes about Jobs' egomania, and based on the fact that his penny-pinching strategy made Apple known as one of the least philanthropic companies in America, I can only conclude that he must have been a pretty awful human being, as well as an overrated salesman. The man was a billionaire seven times over, yet there's no evidence that he ever gave a penny back to the people who made him.
And make him they did, because, let's face it, Apple didn't bring anything new to the planet Earth. Apple causes things to be slightly easier for people who are prepared to spend a lot extra. That's all.
@lemmein: True! It's a given that Steve's own NeXT OS would be the official source of the OS. I'm not a big UNIX fan to begin with but I think the close association with Linux owes to to the FreeBSD background.
I'm more of the network type, not a programmer. Only programmers would take the time to compare command prompt syntax for their functionality. Network types would be exasperated by it all! I started off on Netware but by the time NT4 came out, I knew that a server OS different from the workstation OS would be doomed. Too bad for Steve that he couldn't split his consumer chic products from the business world.
Now that Steve's gone, I suspect that the corporate culture will forbid anyone who understands consumer culture from taking control. Android will start stomping on stagnated Apple devices and the second fall of Apple won't be far away.
Scott, of all the tributes I've seen to Steve Jobs, yours is by far the shortest... and by far the best.
Ignore those who seem to think that Jobs became a billionaire by accident rather than due to his visionary brilliance, that he is so idolized that St. Croix has run out of his trademark black mock turtlenecks because we're all somehow deluded rather than that we're remembering his unmatched history of market-changing, WORLD-changing, innovation. Steve Jobs was THE MAN, and 500 years from now people will look back in awe at how one sadly short-lived man could possibly have accomplished what he did.
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I have been in the computer industry longer than most of you have been alive. When I said Steve Jobs was a visionary, that's just what I meant. He took ideas and turned them into products, and marketed them amazingly well.
Some of you may be old enough to remember when Apple sued Microsoft over the whole idea of a GUI (Graphical User Interface, a term which is now outdated). But how many of you knew that the original GUI was developed by Xerox?
Xerox is not just a copier company. They had a high-tech research wing called PARC, which stood for Palo Alto Research Center. PARC came up with the first GUI. During the lawsuit, Xerox also sued Apple for the same thing Apple sued Microsoft for. Oh, by the way, Apple also sued HP for the same thing.
None of these suits came to fruition, in the way that there was a victor. But what happened as a result of them was that the concept of Intellectual Property (IP) became extended into the computer world.
There are a lot of stories I could tell you - being at COMDEX when the LISA was introduced. If you don't know what LISA was, you should google it. It's an interesting story of the wrong product at the wrong time, filling a niche that didn't exist. Think "Edsel," and you'll have the idea.
In any case, there are a million stories about this man and this company. I know many of them, but in this case, all I can say is that Steve Jobs was brilliant and forward-thinking in a way that few of his generation were. We should all mourn his passing, and look forward to the next Steve Jobs who is currently working on the next big breakthrough.
He wasn't my only hero, but he was sure one of them. God bless him, and may he rest in peace.
I never thought his success was a matter of luck. He was a visionary and a hard worker. He typifies what is known as American Exceptionalism. Not that we as a people are somehow "better" than others; rather, that our way of life and our values enables people like Steve Jobs to reach the level to which they aspire and to which they will commit to reach.
There will be other Steve Jobs, as long as there is an America. May his light shine bright upon the rest of us, and may he inspire the many Steve Jobs of this century.
Sorry for monopolizing the space, but I could not resist saying "AMEN" to this:
"1. "All he did was appreciate the value of an easy user interface." That's it eh? Even IF that statement is 100% true, I think it would still elevate Jobs to hero status."
Exactly. I don't care how powerful or great something is supposed to be, if it suffers from poor interface design. It would be like having the fastest car on the planet, except the steering wheel is in the trunk and cannot be moved from there. Oh, wait, but we do have such products - M$...
Besides, I think Jobs had one quality which I have not seen ANYWHERE in the business world: no patience for BS (which explains his ability to recognize good interface). Show me a businessman who will recognize BS from !$%*! away. Jobs could do it, although not always; others, not so much. I happen to know that he micromanaged many things (even from his hospital bed) because he could see the BS that others could not. It would be fun and refreshing to work with him just for that; and I would not mind one bit to be yelled at if I created something that was not going to leave a dent in the universe.
Actually, OSX is based on XNU kernel which originated at NEXT and was based on Carnegie Mellon Mach kernel and some Free BSD stuff... So today's OSX has some FreeBSD DNA in it, but it is mostly Mach->NEXT XNU.
I'd use it, but hate that all command options are different from what I am used to.
If I type:
ls -lrta
I will probably not get what I intended...
@Pand0ra: Actually, I'm pretty sure that OS/X is the Aqua GUI and Carbon programming API slapped on top of FreeBSD. FreeBSD predates Linux by a bit but it languished due to complexities in copyright. That may also be the reason Apple can charge for the OS without having to obey the rules of the GNU agreement.
OS/X server seems to include many other open source programs such as Squrril mail, Apache, PHP, and MySQL. I really don't know how Apple mananges to avoid GNU rules.
