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Men are story tellers. Women are schedulers.

That's the sort of overgeneralization that drives people mad. I suppose that's what attracts me to writing it.

First, let's all agree that there are plenty of exceptions to this or any other generalization. Perhaps you are one of the exceptions. Obviously there are plenty of great female authors and plenty of great male project managers. But that won't stop me from generalizing.

When I find myself in a conversation with a man, he often tells a funny story about something that happened to himself or someone else. Or he asks me a question that elicits a story from me, however brief. Or maybe one of us will tell a joke, which is a form of a story. Maybe one of us will mention a favorite movie we've seen recently, which is a reference to a story. And when men ask questions in conversation, it is generally to better understand the other person's story.

Women, on the other hand, sometimes appear to be telling stories, but they are actually recounting past events in the approximate order in which they happened. Men's stories usually have identifiable beginnings, middles, and often surprising ends. When women describe past events, men are often left wondering why the beginning of the story started a full day before the parts that seem relevant. Women are sharing feelings, and for that you don't need a neat story format. What matters is the sum of the experiences.

I'm not implying that one approach is better than the other. Obviously a neatly organized story is the best way to convey a joke, whereas a description of recent events, in approximate order of occurrence, is a perfectly good way to share an emotion. And sharing emotions is probably more important than jokes. But I wonder if this gender difference is also related to how men and women store information as memories.

For example, I can remember forever any situation that fits into a typical story form. But a woman can remember the dress she was wearing three birthdays ago, presumably because it made her feel a certain way.

Do you organize memories as stories or as emotions?

 
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Oct 21, 2009
Then why do women never get anywhere on time?
 
 
Oct 16, 2009
I'm a woman and people complain to me that I'm very quiet. I'm not shy, I just don't say anything when I've got nothing to say. I guess most women will just gab and gab about how they feel, but I like to keep things concise.
 
 
Oct 9, 2009
Ah, someone already said what I was going to say, that stand-up comedy really highlights the difference. Women tend to have a really exhaustive lead-up to the punchline, which is an approach that lends itself poorly to stand-up comedy. If you look at aspiring stand-up comedians (since the successful ones obviously won't show the failure pattern), unsuccessful women have a really high noise-to-signal ratio, where comedy is signal, whereas unsuccessful men generally still have a decent signal-to-noise, it's just that their signal isn't very funny.

When I started your post I thought you had it backwards, because I have always thought of it as women tell a story and men tell a joke, but our points are the same.
 
 
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Oct 8, 2009
I am a woman (as is pretty clear by my username) and I have to say that I definitely tend to recall events based on my emotions at the time.

However, I have worked in a predominantly male environment for years and, after reading this post, I definitely notice that when I tend to tell stories to men, I will leave out (or embellish) details to make the story flow better and increase its overall humor. But when I relate a story to a woman, it will generally include details that are extraneous, including things like what was said or how I felt at the time.

I think that either method is useful to convey information, but I think the bottom line is "know your audience."
 
 
Oct 7, 2009
(Oops. I accidentally posted before I finished my thought.)

While I think it's likely differences that in memory and speaking exist, I don't think I'd come up with the generalizations you did. Perhaps you just happen to attract women who regurgitate events emotions and details and men who talk about their life as a series of jokes. Under these !$%*!$%*!$%*!$ of course you'd conclude that most women sequence and most men punchline.

However, I find that MOST people of both sexes are poor storytellers, spewing lots of details and emotions (indignation seems to be, by far, the favorite lately) instead of organizing them into neat stories. I know a few REALLY good storytellers... and they are guys... but you know what? I think it makes more sense that good storytelling / good comedianship might be something like mathematical genius... rare in both sexes, but for whatever reason there are more men with the mutant abilities.

For the record, my generalizations look more like: most guys run out of words at some point in the day and most girls talk a lot more than I do. Or: most guys talk to gain respect while most girls talk to gain security. Or: most guys talk a lot when they want to get laid, and most girls talk a lot when they want to be friends.
 
 
Oct 7, 2009
I'll buy that men & women probably store memories differently, but you lost me on the barely-related sequence of events or emotions vs. organized funny storytelling with beginning middle end.
 
 
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Oct 7, 2009
I think psycheone hit the nail on the head. There are linear thinkers, and the other kind (can you guess which I am?) . The other point I'd like to make is that you presume that stories are organized. My husband launches into his stories en medias res and you have to guess at the context, subject, and other essential details to make sense of what he's trying to relay. I've also noticed that he doesn't start listening at the begining of the story - so our dialog involves a lot of looping back to pick up the key pieces that weren't stated, or were stated before the communication actually started. Not very efficient.
 
 
Oct 7, 2009
This is an accurate generalization. This is most easily viewed in the context of stand up comedy. The vast majority of stand-up comics are men. The predominant style of comedy in this setting is to tell short stories that are easily understandable to a broad audience. To accomplish this, emotions are either left out or they are very easily identifiable. There are some female stand-up comedians, it's not completely a male dominated field. However, the most popular females in the field are very man-like in their appraoch and delivery. Examples are Rosanne, Sarah Silverman, Janeane Garofalo.
 
 
Oct 7, 2009
I've noticed a similar pattern between my wife and I. She can recount entire conversations, of which I scarcely remember occurring. (An understandable point of frustration for her.) I seem to remember any resolution to the conversation, the general tone, and maybe what happened to start it. She can remember every word that was said. But, more importantly, she expects me to be able to repeat any conversation I have had with someone else, if the subject matter concerns her. I'll never understand why she expects that...

Ironically, we seem to have much stronger communication than most couples I know.
 
 
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Oct 7, 2009
I'm an engineer. I communicate mostly in literal, precise facts. I am visual, so I can relate stories vividly and with humor (I relish absurdity in almost all forms except GWB) but seldom do because I don't like to waste my time telling or the other person's listening. I remember some events based on emotions. If I had to choose between relaying emotional content or story content, I suppose I'd go for telling stories. My spouse, who is also an engineer, cannot remember events (especially emotional ones), hardly ever says anything (let alone of substance), and cannot interpret literal, precise facts or literal direct questions without injecting undue emotion. We must drive non-engineers nuts.
 
 
Oct 7, 2009
Seidl, and scothaiullukapattha, I think people vote up funny stuff. I don't think I will take Scott's possibly fatuous yet amusing observations and turn them into a patriarchal world view - to think the intelligent readers of this blog will so do is just a tad patronising. Scott was funny, you were not. Sorry and all.
 
 
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Oct 7, 2009
You want to compare stories ? http://www.fmylife.com/
 
 
Oct 7, 2009
A funy related video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BxckAMaTDc
 
 
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Oct 6, 2009
Much like a swinger, I'd say it goes both ways.

Sometimes a story will trigger a memory, or sometimes an emotion will. I think it's the same for all of us. It's just in the way it's expressed. I've even had it happen when I hear an old song on the radio.

I know it sounds gay, but whenever my wife bakes bread or cookies, the smell of it triggers memories of my Grandparents' farm and Grandma baking bread in the coal stove.

Of course, whenever I drive past a farm and smell the manure, I am always reminded of Congress, but that goes without saying.....



 
 
Oct 6, 2009
I think this is likely more based on who you learned how to tell stories from than gender. I tend to list events that fit a particular theme/emotion because of years of coming home to parents who asked what I learned in school that day which was a series of sequential but unrelated events as is the nature of hoping from class to class. For those who developed story-telling from their school friends, it would stand to reason that it might fall on gender lines because of gender divides in social groups in schools.
 
 
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Oct 6, 2009
Memory what is that? And by the way who are you Scott?
:-))
 
 
Oct 6, 2009
That was wildly contradictory.
Anyways, I organize my memories in terms of concepts within conversations.
I can remember everything that was talked about, but I can't remember any details about where the conversation was held or what I or the other person was wearing.
 
 
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Oct 6, 2009
Chouin,

Thanks for the vote of confidence but I'm a (straight, married) man...lol. Not that I don't appreciate the praise, but I think this is one of those situations where making assumptions about a person based on their argument can be misleading, to say the least.
 
 
Oct 6, 2009
Men cant convey emotions because its not "manly" to convey emotions.

hence why everything has to be a story with a punchline behind it.
 
 
Oct 6, 2009
I'm a female and I'm a chronic story teller. I usually get three stories in per normal conversation. People often tell me they don't care, but I can't stop myself! I annoy me.

And I use both forms of memory: story and emotion. More often then those, though, I have stories and emotions both catalogued under certain key words. Bring up any of these key words and you're in for a story!

 
 
 
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