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Not long ago I blogged about my hunch that iPhones and their cousins would enable ridesharing in a way that past technology could not. Since then I have learned from Jim Morris, Dean, Carnegie Mellon at Silicon Valley, that there is a deep history of attempted ridesharing schemes:

http://dynamicridesharing.org/


One thing they all have in common is that none have set the world on fire. I think there are two reasons for this limited success, and both are about to change.

Reason one is that the economics of solo driving have always been relatively reasonable in the U.S. That could change as the economy continues its downward spiral. People will be looking to cut costs anywhere they can, and they will give up flexibility to do it. That's new, or potentially new. And in developing countries the economics of single passenger autos is less favorable. People will have iPhones long before they have their own cars.

The second obstacle to ridesharing is a sense of control. Imagine finding a ride match on your computer then walking to the sidewalk and hoping it actually shows up on time. Or imagine walking to some central pickup location and hoping there are enough drivers for the number of riders. You would feel you had no control. That's a stopper. But I can imagine a certain type of iPhone-like application that could give you back the feeling of control. I will explain.

First, it would help a lot if you could easily negotiate a ride from the iPhone as opposed to needing a computer. That helps if you need to make a quick change in plans. That's the first part of giving you a sense of control.

Next, the application should use GPS to draw a map of your location, with blips for the cars available for ridesharing. You select the nearest blip and a bio comes up telling you something about the driver, including his primary profession, age, a photo, and a picture of the car. If you don't like something about that potential ride, move on to the next nearest blip. Again, you have a sense of control. Likewise, the driver could reject you as a passenger after seeing your bio.

After you select your driver, and he accepts, you can monitor his progress toward your location by the moving blip on your iPhone. As with the progress bar on your computer, the feedback will give you a sense of control. And with an iPhone you can stay entertained while you wait. That helps make the time go by, and again gives you a sense of control.

I also imagine that all drivers would have to pass some sort of "friend of a friend" test, in the Facebook sense. In other words, you can only be a registered rideshare driver if other registered drivers have recommended you. Drivers would be rated by passengers after each ride, again by iPhone, so every network of friends would carry a combined rating. That would keep the good drivers from recommending bad drivers because the bad rating would be included in their own network of friends average. That system needs more thought, but you can see where I'm going on that. And the same system could be applied to potential passengers. As the system grew, you could often find a ride with a friend of a friend. And that automatically gives you something to talk about too.

The big fear people might have is that strangers would commit crimes against them. But remember that the system would have a record of every ride matched, including the identities of the participants, and a GPS record of where they were and when. A rideshare car would become the very worst place for a criminal to commit a crime.

Apple could make it happen just by good design and of course the coolness factor. The profit potential is huge, for both the system operator and drivers, so that imparts some inevitability to this idea. The U.S. will have too many legal barriers to be the leader in this sort of thing, so I expect it to catch on in other countries first. Once proven elsewhere, the U.S. might take a look.

 
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Dec 16, 2010
Thousands of people do this every work day in Washington, Houston, and San Francisco. The drivers initiate it so they can use HOV lanes.
 
 
Oct 21, 2009
Realtime Ridesharing using SMS

We have been going since late 2003. We have a patent pending on SMS based ridesharing.

Please have a look at this link: http://tinyurl.com/texxi-plentymag

I have attached some writeups below.

http://www.tinyurl.com/texxiFT
| FT Climate Change Prize Long List Entry
http://www.holyrood.com/index.php?option=com_holyrood&func=article&artid=2320&edition=210&brick=12
| Holyrood - Scottish Government Magazine
http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/595535
| Article in Toronto Star (which featured with a TV appearance (phone in) and radio show (phone in) )
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/07/texting_sms_for.html
| 2005 Article in GreenCarCongress Blog
http://www.plentymag.com/features/2007/06/ticket_to_ride.php
| PlentyMag - Environmental Magazine
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2007/nov/01/uk.travelnews
http://www.texxi.com/pro/texxiinf.nsf/DRTExchange.pdf
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/650-to-enter-a-taxi/

So what is Texxi exactly?
A way for you to get a cab more quickly at times when there are tube strikes or football matches / concerts AND pay less AND have the trip log texted to your phone.
You use SMS (or you can book via the forthcoming www.texxi.me.uk site which will be like Expedia) and you share the ride.
Texxi = Transit Exchange Linear Optimisation Social Networking Reputation Mask/Credit System Credit Contagion Mapping Automatic Dependent Surveillance (Broadcast) Predictive Placement
Many cities have unnecessarily high levels of traffic congestion and carbon dioxide emissions due to taxis or vehicles travelling with only a single passenger, which results in more vehicles on the road than necessary in addition to excessive wear to road infrastructure. This inefficient method of transporting people limits the supply of "for hire" taxis at periods of high demand, denying people viable alternatives to public transport (in remote locations) and even forcing them into high-cost vehicle ownership.

Every journey made by a taxi (or any other vehicle) with any unused empty seats has wasted potential capacity. Texxi aims to reduce this wasted potential capacity at low
cost, by filling empty seats in a single taxi with other people travelling in similar directions at similar times using its patent pending "SMS for Grouped Transport" system and many other smart algorithms. More people can be moved in fewer vehicles, thus reducing congestion and carbon dioxide emissions.
How does it work?
A number of individuals will text (SMS) their desired destination to Texxi.
Texxi will know each individual's starting location (using either GPS or by requiring that they meet at a preselected meeting point) and desired destination. In real time, the Texxi system groups people with similar journey intentions in order to fill a single vehicle.
Once all the seats are allocated (or a number of seats that the system deigns to be adequate), Texxi summons a taxi to collect all the passengers from the starting locations (in this iteration, they all must go to one point) and deliver them in turn to their requested destinations.
For a lower fare, passengers must be prepared to both share a vehicle and be slightly inconvenienced by multiple drop-offs. Since we only group people who are going to the same destination in the first instance, this inconvenience will be minor and more than offset by the lower fare and added convenience. We do not deign to force anyone to use the system, so people always have a choice.
We are Libertarians who believe in choice. Markets can often deliver amazing solutions (as long as the real market mechanisms are allowed to operate - which was not the case recently in banking and finance).
 
 
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Jan 25, 2009
Wifi supported ridesharing is inevitable. You describe it very well.
Similar prospective idea described at http://iThumb.org or www.WiRide.com -

Only a government can provide the trust necessary to verify drivers. Also provide tax rebates or forgive gas tax with passenger !$%*! - easily calculated. Drivers and passengers both can be rated and their reputation displayed. Passenger can refuse any ride or driver. GPS tracks both parties. Delivers reports.

This is inevitable. Although maybe not in the US first. Stand at a bus stop in the rain with single occupancy cars driving by - you have your cell phone. You should be able to connect to a trusted driver going your way.

One big obstacle is agreement on standards. There are lots of Ridesharing services - they should all be able to exchange information and share members ride plots in a trusted way.

This optimizes personal transportation in the future. Thanks for spotting this.

 
 
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Jan 23, 2009
Hey, wanted to let you know that http://www.avego.com is actually doing what you described already, it's a free download on the iPhone app store (search for Avego). Thousands of people have already downloaded the iPhone app and/or registered on our web site.

Here's a story the New York Times did on our company last month: http://bit.ly/tw5N

Now, it will take a while and a lot of effort to get critical mass in a lot of areas, but we have some big developments ongoing in various cities around the world to make this happen. We have projects and pilots beginning in the Netherlands, Madrid, Ireland, and we hope to have some pick-up in the States as well. Some of the hotter areas for downloads, where people are creating routes and stops that are becoming available to the public, are in the SF Bay area, St. Louis, Minneapolis, DC and Los Angeles. Why St. Louis? Who knows, just a number of people there who care, I guess :-).

This, even though really the network really remains an experimental travel network for the time being.

Anyway, thanks for plugging this area! We agree with all of your thinking on this, social networks, communities, user-ratings, security etc are all well known issues. Ultimately, society can only afford so much waste, and we all know how massively wasteful it is to be driving alone in a 4-7 passenger car. It's like bleeding cash on the way to work and back.
Best,
Sean (GM, Avego)
 
 
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Jan 23, 2009
I know someone mentioned it, but it would eventually increase the amount of stolen phones, or phones that are rigged to produce signals of other phones.

It's the best world if your a thief. You steal a businessmans phone, walk a block, signal someone, they see you as someone safe and viable on their phone, and they give you, the thief, a ride across town. Meanwhile, in the car the thief has turned off the phone so it is not traceable, and he then rips out the drivers intestines with his stolen leatherman, and steals his phone, his car and notebook computer. He then dissolves the body in hydrochoric acid (he has some) and takes on the identity of the driver, and goes home and screws the drivers wife (or husband) and kisses her (or his) baby. He then teaches this child to become a super-criminal, and it's the 80's again, and we are waiting for a robo-cop like creation to be designed, to take out the young super-criminal.
That's why it won't work.
 
 
Jan 23, 2009
Forget ride share schemes. Let's work out telecommute options first. With the cars taken off the road, those who do have to travel will have plenty of road space to drive their electric cars.
 
 
Jan 23, 2009
(I work for Carticipate) There already is a rideshare application on the iPhone called Carticipate, which is available as a free download on iTunes.

The idea is to indicate where and when you want to go along with your profile and we will match you up with people in your area going the same way, and to do so dynamically with mobile devices.

About two weeks ago we launched the companion Carticipate app on Facebook which will synch with the iPhone, though the iPhone is no longer required to carticipate.

Future versions will support carticipation with more social networking support.
 
 
Jan 22, 2009
You are right on the money with this post. We have been in the Ridesharing space for over a year now and have over 100,000 members worldwide. Mobile is the space to be in and the technology that is out there now makes it quite viable. The key is to be platform independent because not everybody has an iPhone but the scenario you described is attainable today. We are currently working on a alpha version right now and will be releasing a mobile version of PickupPal to a group of early adopters in a matter of weeks - exciting times for sure!

Cheers - Eric
www.pickuppal.com
 
 
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Jan 22, 2009
How to do it without an iPhone....

http://www.slug-lines.com/Slugging/About_slugging.asp
 
 
Jan 22, 2009
Along the lines of using iphones for a common purpose this article was posted on Znet earlier today:

"Can the smartphone beat down violent crime?"
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1350

It's an interesting idea, but will it work?

 
 
Jan 22, 2009
Shadowrider:

I see your comment re: motorcycles and I raise you one bicycle. I cycle 12 !$%*! each way to work through the year and use absolutely no petrol. It may not be for everyone but it would be good for many.
 
 
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Jan 22, 2009
Huh...
One aspect is clearly omitted - the legal stuff.
As the drive sharers would split costs, a passenger will give money to the driver. Even though the amount would not cover the costs of petrol and car depreciation, such money would be considered as income.
So, firstly such activity would draw attention of the tax authority. Secondly (especially, I supposed, after first few casualties in a shared car), the question of taxi-driver licence would rise.


PS Can't wait for the promised change in cartoons. It will surely cause a stream of complaints - I like when peolple whine about free stuff.
 
 
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Jan 22, 2009
People in developing countries are never going to buy an iPhone before a car! I'm from India and here, one of the chief modes of transport is the motorbike. Not the gas guzzling (albeit very desirable) Harleys that you have. The ones here are puny 0.1 liter machines that return between 165 to 120 !$%*! to the gallon. Though they wont break the sound barrier anytime soon, they do go faster than the 2 to 3 liter cars in city traffic.

Also, I think your idea would work even better if you could apply it to the public transport system. All you need is a device that can connect to the net, which can tell you which buses ply on your route and where they are right now. You get transportation at the cheapest with a government driver. In developed countries, throw in a wi-fi connection and you have a winner.

(You should consider having a little timer at the side to tell people when their session is going to end. Your stronger than world bank security ate up my last post - session expired before I hit post. I am presently rediscovering the joys of notepad)
 
 
Jan 22, 2009
IMHO the biggest issue about cars is the need to use them in the first place not how many people ride in it (of course having more people sharing a car would be a good thing but why not solve it once and for all?). The root of the problem and the thing that need to be addressed is why people in the first place need to use the car(private transportation was never supposed to be massive but tell that to science magazines talking about flyin cars since I was a kid).

Here in my country when schools are on holydays for example the traffic just drops to 60ies levels(in my country there was not so many cars as in the US at the time).

Thats why I think the only real and effective solution would be to ban private transport inside cities, do serious work to upgrade mass transport so its not chaotic as it is today and force companies to use way more telework (as my ex said in the office communication would hardly be any worse).

At least having kids taken to and from school by car everyday has to be forbidden cause it likes x100 the traffic, and most cars are full of kids its not like doing ridesharing would have an impact on that. I went to school on bus and I think that taking into account all the kids that use it, we saved 30 or more cars from being used way WAY more each year. Multiply that for all schools on the urban area. Thats a HUGE saving for the envirorment and for our dependence on oil which triggers most conflicts (not demonised presidents).

Also the government can actually make buses use clean fuel way easier than private cars.
Recently I heard strong arguments stating that having lots and lots of laws is not a good thing at all but I disagree. Ive seen it time and time again that we only behave civically when the alternative is to be surely punished and it will hurt. If not..its like that book, waiting for the barbarians, only that they long ago come into the city already.

Satchs says that the way to go is doing small solutions to fix big problems but IMHO that time is long gone, and drastic unpopular measures will have to be made eventually.
Just my two cents.

 
 
Jan 22, 2009
"But remember that the system would have a record of every ride matched, including the !$%*!$%*!$ of the participants"

Or the identity of the person that the criminal you're about to pick up stole the iPhone of.
 
 
Jan 21, 2009
Hi, I hope I'm wrong but without giving it too much thought, the sniff test of this utopia reeks of NP-completeness.

Just in case anyone cares, NP-complete problems are problems that can't be efficiently solved by computers because they are too complex, and they *probably* won't be solvable in the future either.
 
 
Jan 21, 2009
For it to work it needs to get past the iphone, and work on any mobile,

Otherwise it'll simply never catch on, because it'll never cover enough of the "market",
 
 
Jan 21, 2009
A couple of points
- Gasoline will have to get way more expensive before this will happen. We currently pay around $6 a gallon in Great britain and car-sharing just isn't happening here much - everyone still prefers safety and independence.
- people in 3rd world? people will get an iphone before they get a car? I don't think so. I work in Libya, after 4 years in Angola and 5 years in Fiji so have a little bit of experience - when they have a job then the first thing people get is a phone to call people. That is what phones are for. Then they get a car.
An iphone is a toy - it isn't an essential. A phone becomes essential very quickly and a car comes way before an iphone - way, way, way before an iphone.
When you don't have a car in the country side you sit by the road and flag down any pickup that is going by, jump in the back and ride to town. You car pool because you have the time to wait sometime for hours - as other have said - you don't have five things to do in 2 hours to beat the rush hour traffic back - and you don't have to be a soccer dad or a hocky mum or a taxi service for your kids. I don't see the US lifestyle (or the UK lifestyle) to be ameniable to ridepooling except for people who aren't time-limited - students, retirees, unemployed
 
 
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Jan 21, 2009
I've wondered why the "friend of a friend" system you're describing hasn't been used in say, Iraq. Not for qualifying a person to be a driver, but for determining that they're not a terrorist. Though, it could work the same way as what you've described. If someone turns out to be a criminal, then anyone who recommended them is now a suspect. Of course, iphones would be a little expensive to hand out to everyone, but a small smart-card type device (kind of like ez-pass here in the northeast), would be cheap and effective. To get into an area, you'd have to go through a gate which would read your card, and the system would instantly know who you are and who recommended you.





 
 
Jan 21, 2009
As meagen1235 correctly noted above, it's already in existence without the need for an elaborate technological solution. Granted, the solution may be relatively unique to the DC area because of some unique elements - a central employment core with a high employee population, HOV-3 restricted lanes on the primary artery into DC, and limited mass transit options from the further reaches of the suburbs.

The central employment core is important, as you have many agencies within a small area with high numbers of employees...this facilitates a relatively small number of terminal locations within DC that are convenient for most drivers. This makes ride matching relatively easy as the various slug locations can have three or four destinations formed up when the drivers come through looking for their passengers. Also advantageous is a relatively standard set of working hours for the government employees, which provides a critical mass for getting in and out at fixed times.

The HOV-3 lanes on I-95/395 greatly facilitate access into the city as they provide a direct link from the further suburbs along the southern axis into the DC core (and the Pentagon/Crystal City area), and the time savings is singificant - from the closest in locations, you're talking halving the commuting time for all involved...from further out, you may cut the time down to a quarter of what it would take driving solo. That's advantageous for all involved. The HOV-3 means that even an established carpool might have a person or two on vacation and need a temporary replacement.

Finally, the reach of mass transit into the VA suburbs is limited and tends to be expensive and time-consuming. Metro barely reaches outside the Beltway in the DC area, particularly along the I-95 corridor, and a round trip in rush hour can run $15, including parking. And you still have to get to the Beltway to get to Metro, which is time consuming. There are trains available, but that can be an expensive option.

For the driver, you get an expedited trip into the city, minimal cost (many folks have subsidized parking at their location), and relatively few hassles. The riders get a free ride in and out (they are providing a benefit to the driver), but without the time certainty that a set commute may provide.

Overall, it's probably a unique solution to this region, but it exists and has existed for years and years with only minimal government involvement and organization required.
 
 
 
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