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I plan to start hoarding supplies soon. There should be some big riots after the election. Here's a sequence of events and conditions that would lead to rioting. Do you see anything on the list that isn't likely?
  1. The economy stays bad for a another month
  2. Obama has a clear lead in the polls before election day
  3. McCain wins anyway. While the real reason for the polling discrepancy will be racism, there will be a widespread belief that the election was rigged. And there will be plenty of real and imagined evidence that it was.
  4. Riots will break out, partly out of genuine anger, partly to get that new flat screen TV.

We know the country can get past one suspicious Presidential election, because it did exactly that with Gore versus Bush. But two in a row would turn even normal citizens into conspiracy theorists. Given the anxiety over the economy, concerns about abortion rights, and the continuing wars, you have a perfect storm for revolution.

Interestingly, the only person who could stop the riots would be Obama himself.

 
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Oct 17, 2008
Why does Obama have to win to "prove" the elections aren't a farce?

McCain isn't my first choice for President and having Palin as VP scares me a bit, but I will still vote for him because the democratic party has taken stances on issues that are so moronic that it has taken the choice out of my hands. I don't really feel like I get to choose because of that.

Oh and for those that haven't noticed, McCain isn't Bush, and their have been successful republican presidents in the past. Bush was terrible, I will readily admit, but I don't think that either of these guys will make the mistakes that he did.
 
 
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Oct 17, 2008
At least we're still better than France - they riot no matter who wins an election. Heck, they'll riot until they get tired, go on strike, eat a few 5 hour dinners and then go back to rioting.

I suspect the only reason democrats are becoming conspiracy theorists in greater numbers (Hillary during her husband's era was hardly the first) is because of all the positive feedback telling from the media heavily favoring Obama. Fact is, there's still some people in between the big cities on both coasts that really like McCain. There just might be more of them than the others. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Turns out I'm not going to get to vote this year anyway - I just got sent out on a long term project for my employer and it's too late to fill out an absentee ballot.
 
 
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Oct 17, 2008
Sadly you are mistaken. McCain sucks on TV, and those under 30 are all part of the TV generation. They are largely mesmerized by how polished NObama's act is. Couple that with the widespread fraud being done by Acorn, and NObama is in like Flynn. Welcome to an Obamanation. You will get what you asked for. Watch the capital flee to free markets. Recession yields to depression.
 
 
Oct 17, 2008
Here's some evidence for the theft of the 2004 election, by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

The scary part is that due to our desire for an immediate result for the election, it can be easily stolen before enough legal evidence is amassed to challenge it. By the time you account for the 13,000 separate district processes, it's a done deal.
 
 
Oct 17, 2008
2 suspicious elections in a row? There were plenty of suspicious events surrounding the Bush/Kerry election too, but nobody cared. Including final results not matching up at all with exit polls, although that will probably be worse this time around.
 
 
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Oct 17, 2008
As Thomas Jefferson once said, "A Little Revolution Now and Then Is A Good Thing". But it seems unlikely that it will come to riots. Let's hope not.

I am so fed up with special interests controlling congress that I have decided to vote against every incumbent, regardless of party. It may sound stupid, but as individuals the only time we ever have any power over what happens in government is when we vote. If you think about it, voting out every incumbent would only cause a slight shift in the number of Dems and Reps, since there are an almost even number of each party in Congress. But is would force out all current special interests attached to each congressman and would shake the foundations of our government. Now that would be a revolution!
 
 
Oct 17, 2008
I think there are more racists who will vote for Obama because of the color of his skin than racists who will vote against him for it.

Either way this election plays out, certainly his race has kept his background, ideas, and experience from being scrutinized as much as any other similar candidate would have been.
 
 
Oct 17, 2008
Nope, sound feasable to me.
 
 
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Oct 17, 2008
Two quibbles -- one trivial, one not:

1) I think you meant "hoarding," rather than "hording."
2) Why do you only present a scenario in which riots start because Obama loses? With all of the rumors abounding that Obama sympathizes with terrorists, is a secret Muslim, and hates the troops -- plus unfounded allegations of widespread voter fraud -- isn't it just as plausible that riots could break out if McCain loses?
 
 
Oct 17, 2008
Other likely events:
- While on tour to calm the masses, Obama is shot by a right-wing wacko.
- A "terrorist attack" against America is staged as a prelude to martial law.
- We see a lot of Sarah praying.
- McCain grows a small, square moustache and asks everyone to call him "Johnny" (get it? "666"? Oh, never mind.)
 
 
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Oct 17, 2008
"But two in a row would turn even normal citizens into conspiracy theorists."

We've already had two. This would make three.

"While the real reason for the polling discrepancy will be racism."

Depends on how far Obama is ahead in the polls on election day. 5% or below, sure... but if it's more in the range of 10-12%, the Bradley Effect still doesn't cover it.

Hoarding supplies sounds like a good suggestion. And hey, if it turns out to have been unnecessary, it's not like those kinds of supplies go bad.
 
 
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Oct 17, 2008
I think in a "normal" year, apathy would win and the riots would not happen. This is not a normal year. So many people are freaking out over the economy, the terrible things Bush has done to our country, and the general state of the world. Obama has inspired millions to not only vote for him, but to donate and volunteer in unbelievable numbers. Should something cause him to lose, I would not be surprised to see some rather "vociferous" demonstrations across the country, particularly if we have hanging chad and crazy numbers of expunged ballots in Dem leaning areas. Hopefully, for the country's sake, Obama will win and win big so there is zero question about the fairness of the elections.
 
 
Oct 17, 2008
Wow, bleak dude. Some kind of set back got you depressed this morning?
 
 
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Oct 17, 2008
Riots?? Really? Honestly Scott, the citizens of this country are much to apathetic about politics and in general just to lazy to riot in large scale.

My wife and I were filling out our advanced voting ballots yesterday because we intend to be out of the country when your theoretical rioting begins and she surprised me by saying that she really didn't care who got elected for any position at any level. I think that attitude is fairly pervasive, probably not among the readership of this blog, but outside of it.
 
 
 
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