@khpage, my point is, that by using the description in II Timothy 3, a person in any period of history in the 2000 years could say: "The signs are all here. We are NOW in the last days." And in fact, in every period - the fall of Rome, the Islamic jihad, the year 1000, the Black Death, World War 1, etc etc . . . people have always said "Look at the signs. We are NOW in the last days."