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Mar 21, 2014
@HelmeetElGato
"Oh for the freaking sake not another conspiracy looney. Should I assume that means taking the entire package and being anti vaccination nad maybe something fluoride something?"

Not at all. I am pro vaccination. Vaccines are not made from chemicals but bilogics.

"First: Alternative medicine is not profitable.... what? You haven´t seen what those chiropractors and alternate dorctors charge, didn´t you?"
Not as profitable as standard medicine. Standard medicine is a million times more profitable.

"Second: Proof relies on evidence, studies, etc. Bring them on, we talk. biased whishful thinking is not evidence. There is a bumload of evidence that actual medicine works."
I do not contest that actual medicine works. I am only saying that you will be a fool to blindly trust any and all hospitals. I have seen plenty of friends and relatives die at hospitals to have an unjaundiced view of them.

"Thirdth: Unless you are assuming all who go to hospitals are outrageously rich, most hospitals tend to try and kick you out the sooner the better. The rest of your evil merchants of death paranoia seems to be equaly unfounded."
Not so. I have seen plenty of shady practices by hospitals. Doing unnecessary surgeries. Making patients stay for longer than necessary. Billing for unused and impossible items. Harvesting organs and killing patients. Letting good for nothing doctors (mind you I have plenty of MD relatives who are good doctors) operate and experiment on patients.

"Fourth: No less important, a great whole lot of doctors, institutions and healtcare magazines WILL reccomend plants that (this is important) have been proved to actually WORK. Protip: for most of those plants that you don´t smoke you don´t need a recipe, and they are good for keeping on health mostly."

List one plant and the hospital that recommends plants for diseases.

"Fifth: Lots of those medicinal plants, to work, need one processes or another. How is that different to laboratories, except you get the mumbo jumbo of "oooh natural"? "

Many plants do not need any process (except to eat them) to work. Yet only chemicals are prescribed by hospitals and doctors. Biology is as important as chemicals. Manufacture of chemicals damages the environment. Whereas growing plants will not.
 
 
Mar 19, 2014
@shankar
Oh for the freaking sake not another conspiracy looney. Should I assume that means taking the entire package and being anti vaccination nad maybe something fluoride something?
First: Alternative medicine is not profitable.... what? You haven´t seen what those chiropractors and alternate dorctors charge, didn´t you?
Second: Proof relies on evidence, studies, etc. Bring them on, we talk. biased whishful thinking is not evidence. There is a bumload of evidence that actual medicine works.
Thirdth: Unless you are assuming all who go to hospitals are outrageously rich, most hospitals tend to try and kick you out the sooner the better. The rest of your evil merchants of death paranoia seems to be equaly unfounded.
Fourth: No less important, a great whole lot of doctors, institutions and healtcare magazines WILL reccomend plants that (this is important) have been proved to actually WORK. Protip: for most of those plants that you don´t smoke you don´t need a recipe, and they are good for keeping on health mostly.
Fifth: Lots of those medicinal plants, to work, need one processes or another. How is that different to laboratories, except you get the mumbo jumbo of "oooh natural"?
 
 
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Feb 25, 2014
"All kidding aside, "Alternative Medicine" is either medicine that hasn't been proven to work, or medicine that has been proven to not work."

I thought of one more thing about this. Mankind has known medicinal qualities of plants for thousands of years. Do you think there are NO medicinal plants that has been proven to work? Do you agree that there might be atleast ONE plant out there that cures some disease or the other. Yet a "modern" hospital will not be caught dead prescribing plants as medicine why is that? Because prescribing plants is not profitable. Plants can't be patented and owned by big companies. Almost all drugs discovered and manufactured were originally extracted from plants and then patented. So why can't we use plants directly because they are not considered good medicine by current standards. Think about that.
 
 
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Feb 25, 2014
"All kidding aside, "Alternative Medicine" is either medicine that hasn't been proven to work, or medicine that has been proven to not work."

Alternative medicine is either medicine that hasn't been proven to be profitable or medicine that has been proven to work too quickly thus denying profits to greedy hospitals.

@R3sistance

Wait till you get to need a hospital and then we will see if you come back alive. If you got back alive it means 1) There was nothing much wrong with you in the first place. 2) You managed to find a competent doctor. 3) You ran out of cash/insurance and they kicked you out. 4) You are shot with luck. 5) You had the guts to override hospital authorities intent on keeping a cash cow and walked out. 6) You had a natural remission.

Even if you got back it doesn't mean that you didn't contract something like MRSA, VISA or other nosocomial infections.
 
 
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Feb 24, 2014
Wally and Dilbert double team the idiot with sarcasm in stereo = absolutely brilliant, and should be more than enough to end the meeting....
 
 
 
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